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The rise of a new form of germ theory denial

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There is a growing, concerning movement undermining one of the most well established scientific theories there is: germ theory, the idea that germs—like viruses and bacteria—cause disease.

But it’s subtle.

Outright denial of germ theory is still a fringe idea: very few deny that viruses and bacteria exist. Rather, it’s the effect of germs—whether germs are the true cause of an illness—that is increasingly being called into question.

What germ theory is and isn't

When germ theory was first proposed in the 1800s, scientists didn’t have the modern scientific tools we have today, and there was genuine debate over how infectious diseases like cholera were transmitted. Some thought it was microscopic germs, while others thought it was "bad vapors" (miasma theory). But that debate has been long settled. Microscopic germs like Vibrio cholerae (the bacteria that causes cholera), measles, influenza, and polio all cause infections that make people sick.

John Snow's famous cholera map in which he discovered a cluster of cholera cases near the water pump in 19th century London, one of the early findings leading to the discovery that cholera was caused by a water-borne bacterium.

Of course, there is more to germs than just disease. Some germs are good for us—like the many germs that make up the microbiome in our gut. And some germs cause disease only some of the time, like the MRSA bacteria that I am almost certainly colonized with as a healthcare worker. And sometimes, other health conditions—like those with diabetes or conditions that weaken the immune system—make people more susceptible to infectious germs.

Germ theory does not say all germs are bad, nor does it say germs are responsible for every disease known to humans, nor does it say that any exposure to a germ is a guarantee of illness. It says that certain germs can cause infections that make people sick. And when that happens, the germ really is to blame.

A new subtle form of germ theory denial

But this idea is starting to be rejected and replaced with a new, inaccurate view of why infections happen and what we should do about them.

This new version of germ theory denial still acknowledges that germs are real, but says they’re not all that much of a threat for a healthy individual, and not the real problem causing disease. Instead, when someone catches an infection, the person’s immune system and lifestyle are blamed—an unhealthy diet, lack of exercise, exposure to “environmental toxins,” or underlying conditions are allegedly the “true” cause of disease because they damaged the immune system.

Said another way, it’s the belief that infections don’t pose a risk to healthy people who have optimized their immune system. And if you want to prevent infections, vaccines aren’t the solution, becoming healthier through nutrition, exercise, and dietary supplements are.

This version of germ theory denialism has become quite common. It’s what drove the comorbidity fallacy during the pandemic—the belief that COVID wasn’t really what was killing people, that underlying health conditions were actually to blame. It also drove the rumor that if you just eat right and exercise enough, there’s no reason to get vaccinated, because your immune system will be sufficiently “boosted.” More recently, it can be seen in the rumor that vaccines didn’t really cause the decline in vaccine-preventable illnesses like measles and polio during the 20th century, rather, better nutrition and sanitation were the true drivers.

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RFK Jr.'s view on germs

In his recent book The Real Anthony Fauci, RFK Jr. promotes this inaccurate view of germs. He laments that “germ theory” has dominated over the long-debunked 19th-century “miasma theory,” which he defines as “preventing disease by fortifying the immune system through nutrition and by reducing exposures to environmental toxins and stresses. This appears to be a novel definition of miasma theory, as historical records define it as the belief that diseases like cholera were transmitted through “bad air” emanating from corpses or corrupting matter.

According to this new definition of miasma theory, germs only pose a threat if the immune system has already been damaged by poor diet and environmental toxins. He summarizes with a false dichotomy about measles:

“When a starving African child succumbs to measles, the miasmist attributes the death to malnutrition; germ theory proponents (a.k.a. virologists) blame the virus. The miasmist approach to public health is to boost individual immune response.”

This overly simplistic, false view explains RFK Jr.’s approach to public health. He seems to believe that germs like measles are not actually a threat for a healthy person, and can be overcome by nutritional and environmental interventions that “boost” the immune system. This likely explains why for the current measles outbreak, he has been far more enthusiastic about advocating for cod liver oil than vaccination.

This, of course, is abysmally misguided, as any pediatrician or historian can tell you.

A kernel of truth wrapped in a lie

This version of germ theory denialism is particularly sneaky, because it contains a kernel of truth. It’s true that a person’s general health (which is impacted by diet, exercise, age, etc.) can influence how well they will fight off infections. In the case of the starving African child, both inadequate nutrition and the measles infection need to be addressed; we don’t have to choose.

The critical falsehood that makes this view so dangerous is the belief that if you become healthy enough and optimize your nutrition, infectious diseases are no longer a threat. This is simply not true. A healthy 19-year-old can still die from meningitis, even if they’re the star athlete. A fit, healthy 70-year-old can still die from the flu, even if their diet and exercise are perfect. A healthy 6-year-old child can still die from measles, even if they were perfectly fed and didn’t have any underlying conditions.

“Boosting the individual immune response” through nutrition is not anywhere near a sufficient public health response to a measles outbreak. Getting enough cardio and greens is not going to stop bird flu.

Bottom line

A balanced diet, exercise, and sanitation are all incredibly important for keeping us healthy, but they are not a magic cure for infectious disease. Infections have historically been the top killer of humans, and if we forget that and abandon the tools we’ve created to keep them at bay, they will be sure to remind us again.

Sincerely, Dr. P


A version of this article originally appeared on You Can Know Things.

Kristen Panthagani, MD, PhD, is a resident physician and Yale Emergency Scholar, completing a combined Emergency Medicine residency and research fellowship focusing on health literacy and communication. In her free time, she is the creator of the medical blog You Can Know Things and author of YLE’s section on Health (Mis)communication. You can subscribe to her newsletter or Substack. Views expressed belong to KP, not her employer.

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Pascal's Law

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Reductio ad absurdum fails when reality is absurd.
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“Years of tectonic plate folding, RUINED! 🙄”
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Levers are just as absurd, as Archimedes points out: give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world.
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Can’t express how stress free being open minded is.

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Can’t express how stress free being open minded is.

Some lesbians use he/him? Oh cool.

Some people have people inside their head and sometimes it’s fictional chars? Sick your brains like a pirate ship they’re all working to run.

Some people like being treated like a pet dog? Bark bark bro.

Being fat isn’t unhealthy but a perfectly normal type of body to have? Kinda beautiful how different we can all be.

Something doesn’t make any fucking sense? Cool an opportunity to learn. And even if I can’t figure it out it’s cool we still have mysteries today.

It’s just… idk man. People are weird. Being a person is weird. Society is weird. The universe is weird. Rather than having to “normalize” everything, just accept that some people are weird. So are you. Nothing is normal. the rules are all made up. I once saw a Klingon pushing a baby stroller down the street in toronto. The world is a weird place, man. Just roll with it.

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I cannot get over how this devastating bit of ableism has made its way into so much lefty culture “Being fat isn’t unhealthy but a perfectly normal type of body to have?“

Obesity causes health problems AND is a normal type of body to have AND deserves care and respect AND no matter what size we are we can make choices that serve our health and take joy in our bodies AND we can fight for public health interventions that minimize the development of obesity and its comorbidities.

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Menstrual Cycle Length Changes Following Vaccination Against Influenza Alone or With COVID-19 | Obstetrics and Gynecology | JAMA Network Open | JAMA Network

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Question  Is the influenza vaccine alone or with a COVID-19 vaccine associated with change in menstrual cycle length?

Findings  In this cohort study of 1501 participants, in individuals with regular menstrual cycles, a temporary small but statistically significant increase in menstrual cycle length (<1 day) with receipt of an influenza vaccine, with or without a COVID-19 vaccine, based on vaccination in the follicular phase was found.

Meaning  These findings may help to confirm the utility of vaccination for individuals with concerns about adverse effects of vaccination on menstruation.

Importance  Multiple studies have identified an association between COVID-19 vaccination and menstrual disturbances. Data on whether menstrual health is impacted by other vaccines are needed to counsel individuals about what to expect and to address vaccine hesitancy.

Objective  To assess the association of changes in length of the menstrual cycle with influenza vaccination, with or without concurrent receipt of a COVID-19 vaccine.

Design, Setting, and Participants  This global retrospective cohort study prospectively collected menstrual cycle data from April 25, 2023, to February 27, 2024 (4-5 cycles per individual), among international English-speaking users of a digital birth control application. Participants included individuals aged 18 to 45 years, not using hormonal contraception, and with average cycle lengths of 24 to 38 days in 3 consecutive cycles before receipt of vaccines.

Exposure  Seasonal influenza vaccination with or without concurrent receipt of COVID-19 vaccine.

Main Outcome and Measure  The primary outcome consisted of adjusted mean within-individual changes of menstrual cycle length assessed by vaccination group. Secondary analysis evaluated the phase of menstrual cycle at time of vaccination.

Results  A total of 1501 individuals met the inclusion criteria, of whom 791 were vaccinated for influenza only and 710 were concurrently vaccinated for influenza and COVID-19. By race and ethnicity, 1 participant (0.1%) was American Indian or Alaska Native; 10 (0.7%), Asian; 3 (0.2%), Black; 15 (1.0%), Hispanic or Latina; 1 (0.1%), Middle Eastern or North African; 368 (24.5%), White; and 19 (1.3%), other; and 1084 (72.2%), missing. Most of the cohort was younger than 35 years (1230 [82.0%]), had at least a college degree (1122 [74.8%]), and was located in the US or Canada (938 [62.5%]). Individuals vaccinated for influenza alone experienced an adjusted mean increase of 0.40 (95% CI, 0.08-0.72) days, while those vaccinated concurrently for influenza and COVID-19 experienced a mean increase of 0.49 (95% CI, 0.16-0.83) days (P = .69 for difference between vaccine groups). A total of 37 individuals (4.7%) experienced a change in cycle length of at least 8 days with influenza vaccine only and 42 (5.9%) with concurrent receipt of both vaccines (P = .28). In the postvaccination cycle, both vaccination groups returned to their prevaccination cycle lengths. Menstrual cycle changes occurred with vaccination in the follicular phase but not the luteal phase.

Conclusions and Relevance  In this cohort study of individuals with regular menstrual cycles, influenza vaccine given alone or in combination with a COVID-19 vaccine was associated with a small but temporary change in menstrual cycle length. These findings may help clinicians confirm the utility of vaccination for patients with concerns about menstrual adverse effects of vaccination.

In January 2019, the World Health Organization recognized vaccine hesitancy as one of the top 10 threats to global health.1 The public’s concerns about vaccines and their adverse effects can directly impact vaccine hesitancy and impede the uptake of vaccines, which in turn increases rates of preventable disease.2-4 Reported menstrual changes following receipt of the COVID-19 vaccine received a substantial amount of attention and concern from civil society and the media, which impacted uptake.5 However, establishment of a link between vaccines and menstrual changes is not new. For example, the Japanese government was forced to suspend their human papillomavirus (HPV) vaccine program in 2013 following reports of adverse effects including menstrual cycle disturbances in adolescents and young women, which raised fears of potential impacts on future fertility.6 Initial uptake was 70%, but following these reports, vaccination uptake plummeted to less than 1% among the eligible population.7-9 The absence of data to directly address anecdotal reports has had long-lasting impacts: uptake of HPV vaccine is still low in Japan, and HPV vaccine programs in other countries were also shown to be negatively impacted.10-12 More importantly, the lack of HPV vaccine uptake is estimated to result in approximately 10 000 preventable deaths from cervical cancer in Japan in the next 50 years.13

Prior work from some of the investigators from the present study and others14-17 has found a small temporary change in menstrual cycle length and heaviness in menstrual flow for individuals receiving the COVID-19 vaccine, particularly for those who are vaccinated during the follicular phase of the menstrual cycle. While the underlying mechanisms behind this finding are not fully understood, we have known for several decades that the immune and reproductive systems interact closely with one another, but the interaction does not cause infertility.18 An individual’s response to a vaccine is impacted by a variety of factors, including prior exposure to the disease and/or vaccine, immunogenicity of the vaccine, time from either event, and biological sex, among others.19,20 Despite the potential for menstrual cycle disturbances following vaccination, menstrual health outcomes have been overlooked in prior vaccine clinical trials, creating a critical knowledge gap about these important preventative health tools.16

Influenza is a long-standing common endemic virus. Influenza vaccination is the best way to prevent or decrease complications of influenza and is recommended annually to offset waning immunity. Now that COVID-19 infection has transitioned from pandemic to endemic, we appear to be moving into an annual vaccination schedule that will include recommendations to receive both influenza and COVID-19 vaccines. However, any potential impact of influenza vaccination on menstrual cycle changes and whether those changes may differ with concurrent receipt of the COVID-19 vaccine remain unknown. Herein we analyze prospectively collected menstrual cycle data among those who received the influenza vaccine alone or on the same day as COVID-19 vaccination. We compare changes in menstrual cycle length in days and the prevalence of clinically meaningful changes (≥8 days) between vaccination groups,21 in both the vaccination and postvaccination cycles.

This retrospective cohort study used prospectively collected menstrual cycle data from a digital birth control application (Natural Cycles; Nordic AB). Individuals use the application to plan or prevent pregnancy without the use of hormonal contraceptive methods; details about the variables collected by the application have been published previously.22 To be eligible for study inclusion, individuals needed to consent to the use of their deidentified data for research purposes, be aged 18 to 45 years, and respond to an in-application message about receipt and timing of a seasonal influenza and/or COVID-19 vaccination in August 2023 or later. Retrospective self-reported data on vaccination timing were then paired with prospectively collected data on menstrual cycles. We excluded individuals who indicated that they had received at least 1 vaccination but did not provide a vaccination date, only received COVID-19 vaccine, received both vaccines but in different cycles or different days within the same cycle, had no data for the vaccination cycle or fewer than 3 prevaccination cycles, had nonconsecutive cycles, had a mean prevaccination cycle length outside the reference range of 24 to 38 days,21 were at least 38 days into the vaccination cycle prior to receiving a vaccine, self-identified as menopausal, or were less than 3 cycles after pregnancy or after hormonal contraception use for the entire study period (Figure 1). The Institutional Review Board of the Oregon Health & Science University, Portland, approved the protocol and did not require informed written consent beyond an introduction to the brief survey and a reminder regarding the revokable consent to the use of deidentified data for research purposes provided by users within the application. This report follows the Strengthening the Reporting of Observational Studies in Epidemiology (STROBE) reporting guideline for cohort studies.

Cycle data in the final analytical sample ranged between April 25, 2023, and February 27, 2024; vaccines were received from August 21, 2023, to January 29, 2024. Each individual contributed data from a minimum of 4 consecutive cycles: 3 prevaccination cycles and the cycle in which they received their vaccines (vaccination cycle). We also included data from a fifth cycle immediately following the vaccination cycle (postvaccination cycle) if available. If data from the postvaccination cycle were not available, we excluded those individuals (n = 30) from postvaccination cycle analyses.

Our primary binary independent variable was vaccination group: receipt of an influenza vaccine only or concurrent receipt of both influenza and COVID-19 vaccines on the same day. We chose to focus on these study groups since completely naive (unvaccinated) individuals are rare in the study population. Our primary outcome was the adjusted within-individual change in menstrual cycle length (in days) from the mean of the 3 prevaccination cycles to the vaccination cycle; each individual therefore served as their own control. We also assessed the change in cycle length from the prevaccination cycle mean to the postvaccination cycle, and whether the vaccination or postvaccination change in cycle length was clinically meaningful (defined as a change of ≥8 days).21

We included several sociodemographic characteristics collected within the birth control application. We categorized age into approximate 5-year groups: 18 to 24, 25 to 29, 30 to 34, 35 to 39, and 40 to 45 years. Individuals reported their race and ethnicity using options defined by the application as American Indian or Alaska Native, Asian, Black, Hispanic or Latina, Middle Eastern or North African, White, or other group. We reported racial and ethnic categories to characterize this sample population but did not include these data in our primary adjusted model. We used categorical variables for body mass index (BMI; calculated as the weight in kilograms divided by the height in meters squared): underweight (<18.5), normal weight (18.5-24.9), overweight (25.0-29.9), and obesity (≥30.0). We classified geographic location as the UK and Channel Islands, continental Europe, US and Canada, and other regions. We also used binary variables to characterize parity (nulliparous vs parous), educational level (less than a college degree vs college degree or more), and relationship status (in a relationship vs not in a relationship). Notably, the birth control application’s sociodemographic data collection patterns have changed over time, and report of many sociodemographic variables is optional within the application, which resulted in a large degree of missingness for several variables.

We compared all sociodemographic characteristics by vaccination group using a Pearson χ2 or Fisher exact test. We calculated the change in cycle length from the prevaccination mean to the vaccination and postvaccination cycles (excluding 30 individuals with no data for the postvaccination cycle) and adjusted the estimates using linear regression models with change in cycle length as the outcome, vaccination group as the primary independent variable, and age group, BMI category, and parity as adjusting covariates. We then graphed the mean marginal change in cycle length from the models with 95% CIs for individuals who only received the influenza vaccine and those who received both the influenza and COVID-19 vaccine on the same day. We used multiple imputation by chained equations23 with 50 rounds of imputation to address missingness in adjusting covariates. Data missingness was a function of changes to demographic data collection by the application and considered missing at random. We compared the percentage of individuals who experienced a clinically meaningful change in cycle length (≥8 days) during the vaccination cycle across vaccination groups using a Pearson χ2 test. We then repeated this analysis for the postvaccination cycle among those who had experienced a clinically meaningful change in cycle length during the prior vaccination cycle.

In addition to assessing unadjusted changes in cycle length, we conducted several sensitivity analyses to confirm the robustness of our results for both the vaccination and postvaccination cycles. First, we excluded any individuals who reported polycystic ovary syndrome, thyroid disorder, or endometriosis (n = 145). Second, we excluded anyone who reported use of emergency contraception in any cycle during the study period (n = 58). Third, we excluded anyone with at least 1 prevaccination cycle outside the 24- to 38-day range (n = 247). Fourth, we developed multivariable models with additional adjusting covariates: race and ethnicity (collapsed to White compared with some other group due to sample size), global region (collapsed to US and Canada compared with other regions), educational level, and relationship status. Finally, we assessed the adjusted change in cycle length based on the menstrual phase timing of vaccination for both vaccination groups: receipt of vaccines in the follicular phase (first day of the cycle through the day of ovulation as estimated by the application’s validated algorithm) or luteal phase (day after ovulation through the last day of the cycle), using methods described previously.24 All analyses were conducted using Stata, version 17.0 (StataCorp LLC), and 2-sided P ≤ .05 indicated statistical significance.

Among the 1501 individuals in this analytical cohort, 1230 (82.0%) were younger than 35 years; 1122 (74.8%) had at least a college degree; and 938 (62.5%) were located in the US or Canada (Table 1). By race and ethnicity, 1 participant (0.1%) was American Indian or Alaska Native; 10 (0.7%), Asian; 3 (0.2%), Black; 15 (1.0%), Hispanic or Latina; 1 (0.1%), Middle Eastern or North African; 368 (24.5%), White; and 19 (1.3%), other; and 1084 (72.2%), missing. Figure 1 summarizes participant flow. The study sample included 791 individuals vaccinated for influenza only and 710 vaccinated for both influenza and COVID-19 on the same day, representing a total of 7475 cycles, with 30 individuals missing data from the postvaccination cycle. Compared with those who received only the influenza vaccine, individuals who received both vaccines were more likely to be older than 30 years (391 [55.1%] vs 346 [43.7%]; P < .001) and more likely to be located in the US or Canada (511 [72.0%] vs 427 [54.0%]; P < .001). All missing data are tabulated in Table 1.

Both vaccination groups experienced a small but statistically significant adjusted increase in cycle length during the vaccination cycle (Figure 2A). Individuals vaccinated for influenza alone experienced a mean increase of 0.40 (95% CI, 0.08-0.72) days, while those vaccinated concurrently for influenza and COVID-19 experienced a mean increase of 0.49 (95% CI, 0.16-0.83) days (P = .69 for difference between vaccine groups). In the postvaccination cycle, neither group experienced cycle lengths that were significantly different from those in their prevaccination period (Figure 2B). The adjusted mean change in cycle length was −0.02 (95% CI, −0.31 to 0.27) days for the influenza only group and 0.14 (95% CI, −0.17 to 0.45) days for the influenza and COVID-19 group (P = .46 for the between-group difference). eTable 1 in Supplement 1 includes summary statistics for cycle lengths and changes from prevaccination mean.

During the vaccination cycle, the percentage of individuals who experienced a clinically meaningful change in cycle length of 8 days or more was slightly higher in the group that received both vaccines concurrently compared with influenza only (42 of 710 [5.9%] vs 37 of 791 [4.7%]) (Table 2), but the difference was not statistically significant (P = .28). Among those who experienced a clinically meaningful change in cycle length during the vaccination cycle (≥8 days), there were no statistically significant differences in the percentage who continued to experience a clinically meaningful change in the postvaccination cycle between the vaccination groups (10 of 36 [27.8%] for influenza only vs 8 of 39 [20.5%] for both vaccines; P = .46).

Our sensitivity analyses excluding individuals with polycystic ovary syndrome, thyroid disorder, or endometriosis, individuals reporting emergency contraception use, or individuals with any prevaccination cycle lengths outside the normal range or adjusting for the full set of covariates did not alter our findings in a meaningful way, with the exception that the change in vaccination cycle length for individuals vaccinated for influenza alone was not statistically significant after excluding those with self-reported gynecological or thyroid disorders (eTable 2 in Supplement 1). However, in that sensitivity analysis, the cycle length change was significant for individuals who received both vaccines with an increase of 0.53 (95% CI, 0.21 to 0.86) days.

When we examined the adjusted change in cycle length in both vaccination groups by the menstrual phase of vaccination, only individuals who were vaccinated in the follicular phase experienced a statistically significant increase in cycle length compared with their prevaccination mean length: increase of 0.82 (95% CI, 0.40-1.24) days for influenza alone and 0.99 (95% CI, 0.55-1.43) days for concurrent influenza and COVID-19 vaccines (Figure 3A). Individuals vaccinated in the luteal phase experienced no change in cycle length: −0.16 (95% CI, −0.63 to 0.32) days for influenza alone vs −0.14 (95% CI, −0.64 to 0.36) days for both vaccines. In the postvaccination cycle, no groups experienced a significant change in cycle length regardless of menstrual phase of vaccination or vaccines received (Figure 3B).

Misinformation and the dearth of data to confirm or refute the vaccine experience can decrease acceptability and uptake of a vaccine. Prior work including investigators from the present study14,15 found that the COVID-19 vaccine temporarily lengthens the menstrual cycle by about 1 day or less, while a small subset of individuals will experience a clinically meaningful cycle length change of 8 days or more. In the present cohort study, we found a similarly temporary small increase in cycle length for individuals receiving seasonal influenza vaccine only or influenza plus COVID-19 vaccine, based on vaccination during the follicular phase, and a small subset who experienced a cycle length change of 8 days or more. This provides an important first data point about how influenza vaccination might affect menstrual cyclicity, a topic that has been largely ignored throughout the almost century-long history of influenza vaccines.

A substantial amount of one’s lifetime is spent menstruating. It is a common routine bodily function occurring for approximately 1 week each month for 40 years. While the COVID-19 pandemic brought many challenges, it did highlight the lack of evidence on this important patient-oriented outcome. Public concern about new vaccines creates mistrust about all vaccines. We have seen a recent decline in overall vaccination uptake.25 We hypothesized that given the endemic nature of influenza and the widespread exposure to the influenza vaccine, we might not see any signal, but given that vaccines are meant to cause an immune response each time they are received, it is also not surprising that our findings are similar to those for the COVID-19 vaccine. Notably, our findings also suggest that concurrent administration of the COVID-19 vaccine with influenza vaccination does not appear to significantly increase the risk of menstrual cycle disturbances, which may help clinicians confirm the utility of vaccination with these temporary changes and help improve vaccine uptake rates for both endemic diseases.

The increase in cycle length we observed appears to be based on individuals vaccinated in the follicular phase of their menstrual cycle. This is in line with previous work from some of the investigators of the present study,24 which found an approximately 1-day increase in cycle length for individuals vaccinated for COVID-19 during the follicular phase, but no change for those vaccinated in the luteal phase or for an unvaccinated control group. Our results support the current hypothesis that the immune response triggered by vaccination temporarily impacts the hypothalamic-pituitary-ovarian axis, although it is unclear whether this is a series of temporary responses or 1 primary change and at what level of the axis this occurs.24,26,27 Individuals who are concerned about potential menstrual cycle disturbances following vaccination for influenza and/or COVID-19 could consider timing their vaccination to coincide with their luteal phase to minimize their risk of cycle length changes.

While small changes in menstrual health may not seem meaningful to many clinicians and scientists, any perceived impact in a routine bodily function linked to fertility can cause alarm and contribute to vaccine hesitancy. To draw a parallel, this might be comparable to whether reports of temporary erectile dysfunction occurred post vaccination, which is by no means a serious adverse event but is a cause of distress if unanticipated, potentially raising concerns for future fertility, and which could certainly fuel vaccine hesitancy. While sporadic deviations from menstrual norms are not cause for clinical concern, they can have a large adverse impact on the quality of life during menstruation for individuals who experience episodes of social embarrassment, anxiety related to uncontained bleeding or pregnancy, and worry about what bleeding changes mean for their overall health and fertility.28-30 Any change, even if small and not clinically relevant, is important to the public, and even more so in the context of vaccines and rampant misinformation.31

Strengths and Limitations

The strengths of our study include a large global sample of prospectively collected menstrual cycle data before, during, and after self-confirmed vaccine timing and type. Menstrual cycles are known to be inherently variable, but we attempted to mitigate this by using data from individuals not using hormonal contraception with proven regular cycles prior to vaccination as their own controls and excluding individuals with known irregular cycles.

This study also has some limitations. First, our dataset had high levels of missingness for several sociodemographic characteristics, potentially limiting our ability to address confounding. However, various approaches to multiple imputation did not change our findings. Second, our sample is largely White, nulliparous, and highly educated and has a low BMI, which could limit the generalizability of our results. Third, we were only able to adjust for sociodemographic characteristics collected by the application; our estimates may be affected by residual confounding. Fourth, vaccination dates were self-reported and may be subject to recall bias, but we conducted the survey during the most active time of influenza vaccination. We also excluded a large proportion of eligible individuals who did not have enough cycle data to adequately assess our outcome. This is due to the fact that the user base for the birth control application has grown over time, and newer users were not yet tracking their cycle data around the time of vaccination. Prior work14,15,17,24 compared COVID-19 vaccinated individuals with an unvaccinated control group; in this study we compare receipt of influenza vaccine alone or in combination with COVID-19 vaccine, which represents a common clinical scenario. Individuals truly naive to either vaccine are rare; both influenza and the influenza vaccine have been endemic for decades.

In this cohort study, we found that receipt of influenza vaccine alone and receipt of both influenza and COVID-19 on the same day were associated with small (<1 day) changes in menstrual cycle length, based on vaccination during the follicular phase. We further showed no differences by vaccination group in the proportion of individuals who experience a clinically meaningful (≥8 days) change in cycle length. Our findings can confirm that concurrent receipt of influenza and COVID-19 vaccines does not appear to be associated with large menstrual cycle changes in most people.

Accepted for Publication: February 28, 2025.

Published: April 29, 2025. doi:10.1001/jamanetworkopen.2025.7871

Open Access: This is an open access article distributed under the terms of the CC-BY License. © 2025 Boniface ER et al. JAMA Network Open.

Corresponding Author: Alison Edelman, MD, MPH, Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology, Oregon Health & Science University, 3181 SW Sam Jackson, Mail Code UHN 50, Portland, OR 97239 ([email protected]).

Author Contributions: Ms Boniface had full access to all of the data in the study and takes responsibility for the integrity of the data and the accuracy of the data analysis.

Concept and design: Boniface, Darney, Alvergne, Edelman.

Acquisition, analysis, or interpretation of data: Boniface, Darney, van Lamsweerde, Benhar, Edelman.

Drafting of the manuscript: Boniface, Edelman.

Critical review of the manuscript for important intellectual content: All authors.

Statistical analysis: Boniface, Darney.

Obtained funding: Edelman.

Administrative, technical, or material support: van Lamsweerde, Edelman.

Supervision: Darney, Benhar, Alvergne, Edelman.

Conflict of Interest Disclosures: Dr Darney reported receiving grants from the National Institutes of Health (NIH) during the conduct of the study, an honorarium from the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, and nonfinancial support from Society of Family Planning travel expenses outside the submitted work and serving as deputy editor at Contraception. Ms van Lamsweerde reported receiving personal fees from Natural Cycles Nordic AB during the conduct of the study. Dr Benhar reported receiving personal fees from Natural Cycles Nordic AB during the conduct of the study. Dr Edelman reported receiving grant support from the NIH during the conduct of the study and receiving royalties from Contemporary Forums and UpToDate Inc, research sponsorship to institution from Organon & Co and HRA Pharma, honoraria for continuing medical education activities from Medscape, honoraria for advisory group participation from FHI 360, grant support from the Gates Foundation, and travel reimbursement for advisory group activities from the World Health Organization and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention outside the submitted work. No other disclosures were reported.

Funding/Support: This study was supported by grant NICHD089957 from the US National Institute of Child Health and Human Development (principal investigator, Dr Edelman).

Role of the Funder/Sponsor: The funder had no role in the design and conduct of the study; collection, management, analysis, and interpretation of the data; preparation, review, or approval of the manuscript; and decision to submit the manuscript for publication.

Data Sharing Statement: See Supplement 2.

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